Archer playthroughs are always a super fun thing. Especially when you install so many mods in your game that firing arrows feels much more realistic and wandering around with your bow becomes much more fun.
As such I've made a list of the best archery mods that I've found to enhance the archery experience of Skyrim as much as possible.
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Bear in mind that the mods I've compiled are exclusively meant to enhance archery per se.
You may find other mods that further enhance your experience (for example, customizable camera mods) but the main goal of my list is to provide you with a set of mods that focus on improving arrows, bows, and archery-related stuff only.
15. Difficult Archery
The description of this mod couldn't have said it better – everyone is a master marksman in Skyrim except you.
It seems like every single NPC in the game always has the edge on the player as they never seem to miss a single shot.
With Difficult Archery, however, you'll be able to see your enemies fire with the same level of inaccuracy as you. Specifically because it adds a higher error margin for the shots of all NPCs in the game.
This mod also makes archery a true challenge – you will need to find cover if you are to survive enemy attacks, as the higher inaccuracy is also accompanied by higher damage (both with your bow and your enemies' bows).
14. Better Archery Eagle Eye Perk
The Eagle Eye perk is basically the equivalent of sniping in Skyrim, but it makes it quite difficult to use the fact that it drains stamina too quickly.
Also the zoom doesn't feel quite as good.
Well this mod kills two birds with one arrow and fixes just that – you'll be able to zoom in much more when using the Eagle Eye perk and your stamina will drain much more slowly as well.
13. Better Archery
Better Archery aims to reduce the unrealistic effects of arrows in the game.
Do you know how arrows seems to float in Skyrim when you fire them? Well install this mod and that will happen no longer.
The speed of all arrows will be increased and the effects that gravity has on each of them isn't as bad. That means that they have better accuracy thanks to improved trajectories.
Shoot your enemies across higher distances and eliminate all of your foes without batting an eye thanks to this amazing mod.
12. Proper Aiming
Proper Aiming makes your arrows go straight to the center of your crosshair.
If you've had enough of arrow inaccuracy then this mod is the one you'll want to try.
It allows your shots to go exactly where you're aiming, which surprisingly isn't the case in the vanilla game. Oh well, thankfully we have modders to fix what Bethesda didn't.
11. Insane Armory – Archery Bows and Crossbows
This mod is a visual change to the game, but the difference is noticeable and bows and crossbows look much better.
Insane Armory makes bows look much less thick than they do in the game.
I know you don't think this is a necessary change, but please take a look at the mod page and see how the mod alters the look of bows. They just look much more realistic.
The mod makes it feel like your character is truly holding a comfortable bow and not just some massive weapon that seems too difficult to handle.
10. Whiterun Archery Pro Shop
Whiterun Archery Pro Shop is a new store that just opened in Whiterun, which is owned by Les The Hunter.
As one of the most skillful archers in Skyrim, he's open to sharing his knowledge of archery if you're keen to hire an instructor.
The shop sells everything you need to buy as a skilled or newcomer in the world of archery, including weapons and ammunition.
Also as the creator of the mod states, Les is a marriable character.
If you want a hunting companion for the rest of your days or simply someone that has your back with the bow, Les is a good option.
9. Ultra Realistic Bow Shooting Sounds
The creator of this mod took time to record the sounds of actual bows being shot on YouTube and simply made sound files for the game with said recordings.
A fantastic mod indeed, using quite a simple yet super effective concept.
It makes shooting a much more enjoyable experience!
8. Extended Archery Skill Tree
This mod is meant to be used together with other difficulty-enhancing mods, but it basically allows arrows to do much more damage as you progress through levels in Skyrim.
Many issues with archery in the game come from the fact that arrows become less effective against high-level foes, which causes problems to the player more often than not.
7. Spinning Arrows
This mod makes arrows spin when you shoot them, much like they do in real life!
In Skyrim whenever you shoot a bow, the arrow simply moves in a straight direction without any sort of rotation movement whatsoever.
But with this mod you will notice how every arrow moves as you shoot them, enhancing the way it looks by a landslide. Highly recommend this one for any serious archery users.
6. Scoped Bows
Scoped Bows is a mod that adds scopes in the most lore-friendly way possible.
The design of these bows looks very much like any other creation made by the Dunmer, so it does fit quite nicely into Skyrim.
The mod adds a total of 32 bows into the game, which gives you plenty of variety and many more options to complement your archery experience.
If you've been playing the game for as long as me, you'll probably look at this mod with a lot of enthusiasm – and rightly so. Aiming with these weapons is extremely fun!
5. Auto Unequip Ammo
This mod makes ammo get automatically unequipped from your character's active slots as soon as you unequip the ranged weapon that you're using.
For that purpose, the mod remembers exactly which type of ammunition you were using with any bow in the game. Which means that it will get automatically equipped back whenever you use that bow again.
It's a QOL mod more than anything else.
If you're like me and you hate that ammo stays when your weapon isn't in your hands, then this mod is exactly what you need.
4. Nock to Tip
Nock to Tip overhauls the archery system by basically making smithing and archery independent from one another.
Gone are the days of you having to craft random crap to improve your smithing skill and gain access to better arrows.
Now with this mod you'll be able to fletch your own arrows without having to use grindstones of any sorts.
Instead nocks are now attached to most arrows in the game thanks to the complete rework done by the creator of this mod.
That's right – this mod changes the way every single arrow in the game looks.
It adds a nock to the tip of every arrow plus it gives arrows a more realistic and elongated look. They will also now be able to penetrate further into the skin and organs of your foes, making them deadlier.
3. Closer Quivers and Longer Arrows
This is another mod that shows how short arrows are in vanilla Skyrim.
It makes every single arrow in the game longer, but it also makes the quivers more attached to the body of your character.
Plus it makes n sense for the quiver to be floating in the air, and this is one of the things that has irked Skyrim players the most ever since the release of the game.
2. ABT – Arrow and Bolt Tweaks
This mod makes a lot of subtle changes to the arrow and bolt system of the game, but they all add up to create a much more enjoyable archery experience.
The arrows move better, ammunition is far more useful, progressive damage is introduced to the game, and the overall quality of archery improves by a landslide.
A fantastic mod that compiles many of the best features of other mods on this list. I would recommend trying this one (and the mod that took the first place on this list) before the rest!
1. Archery Gameplay Overhaul
AGO changes the way your character moves when using a bow. Sounds small but it gets into a lot of detail.
It has basically a full rework of a bunch of the game's animations to make everything look better and smoother.
Bows are also drawn much faster, cutting the time it takes for you to fire in half, and it even adds the ability for you to enchant arrows and improve your strength as a bowman even further.
There's bleeding, better crosshairs, progressive damage, and even arm fatigue to make archery a much more pleasant and a tad more challenging activity.
Everything about this mod makes archery a lot more fun.
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| This page or section is incomplete. You can help by adding to it. We are missing the difficulty levels for all intimidation challenges, and all Speech challenges added by Dragonborn. For more information, see the help files, the style guide, and this article's talk page. |
| Skill: Speech |
|---|
| Specialization: Stealth |
The Speech skill (referred to as Speechcraft in the Console) allows you to more effectively persuade people and to barter with shopkeepers. Perks in this skill allow you to get better deals when trading, buy and sell any kind of item to any merchant, and make it more likely for a persuasion or intimidation attempt to succeed. The Speech skill tree has a total of 9 perks, requiring a total of 13 perk points to fill.
In-game Description: The skill of persuasion can be used to get better prices from merchants, and persuade others to do as you ask.
- 2Skill Usage
- 2.2Persuasion Options
- 3Skill Increases
Skill Perks[edit]
| Perk | Rank | Description | ID | Skill Req. | Perk Req. |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Haggling | 1 | Buying and selling prices are 10% better. | 000be128 | ||
| 2 | Buying and selling prices are 15% better. | 000c07ce | 20 Speech | ||
| 3 | Buying and selling prices are 20% better. | 000c07cf | 40 Speech | ||
| 4 | Buying and selling prices are 25% better. | 000c07d0 | 60 Speech | ||
| 5 | Buying and selling prices are 30% better. | 000c07d1 | 80 Speech | ||
| Allure | 10% better prices with the opposite sex. | 00058f75 | 30 Speech | Haggling | |
| Merchant | Can sell any type of item to any kind of merchant.† | 00058f7a | 50 Speech | Allure | |
| Investor | Can invest 500 gold with a shopkeeper to increase his available gold permanently. | 00058f7b | 70 Speech | Merchant | |
| Fence | Can barter stolen goods with any merchant you have invested in. | 00058f79 | 90 Speech | Investor | |
| Master Trader | Every merchant in the world gains 1000 gold for bartering.¥ | 001090a5 | 100 Speech | Fence | |
| Bribery | Can bribe guards to ignore crimes. | 00058f72 | 30 Speech | Haggling | |
| Persuasion | Persuasion attempts are 30% easier. | 001090a2 | 50 Speech | Bribery | |
| Intimidation | Intimidation is twice as likely to be successful. | 00105f29 | 70 Speech | Persuasion |
Skill Usage[edit]
Your Speech skill determines the chance of successfully being able to get information out of an NPC using intimidation or persuasion. These Speech Challenges will be provided as options during certain dialogues.
Special dialogue options include:
- Persuade: influence someone by reasoning with them. Chances of success depend solely upon your Speech skill.
- Intimidate: influence someone by threatening them. Chances of success depend upon your Speech skill and your level subtracted by the NPC's level. For example, a 50 difficulty Intimidation check will succeed with a Speech skill of 45 if your character is at least 5 levels higher.
- Bribe: influence someone by giving them money. Factors influencing chance of success are unknown.
Your Speech skill also affects merchant prices; prices can be further improved using some of the Speech skill perks, barter potions or enchanted equipment.
Well this mod kills two birds with one arrow and fixes just that – you'll be able to zoom in much more when using the Eagle Eye perk and your stamina will drain much more slowly as well.
13. Better Archery
Better Archery aims to reduce the unrealistic effects of arrows in the game.
Do you know how arrows seems to float in Skyrim when you fire them? Well install this mod and that will happen no longer.
The speed of all arrows will be increased and the effects that gravity has on each of them isn't as bad. That means that they have better accuracy thanks to improved trajectories.
Shoot your enemies across higher distances and eliminate all of your foes without batting an eye thanks to this amazing mod.
12. Proper Aiming
Proper Aiming makes your arrows go straight to the center of your crosshair.
If you've had enough of arrow inaccuracy then this mod is the one you'll want to try.
It allows your shots to go exactly where you're aiming, which surprisingly isn't the case in the vanilla game. Oh well, thankfully we have modders to fix what Bethesda didn't.
11. Insane Armory – Archery Bows and Crossbows
This mod is a visual change to the game, but the difference is noticeable and bows and crossbows look much better.
Insane Armory makes bows look much less thick than they do in the game.
I know you don't think this is a necessary change, but please take a look at the mod page and see how the mod alters the look of bows. They just look much more realistic.
The mod makes it feel like your character is truly holding a comfortable bow and not just some massive weapon that seems too difficult to handle.
10. Whiterun Archery Pro Shop
Whiterun Archery Pro Shop is a new store that just opened in Whiterun, which is owned by Les The Hunter.
As one of the most skillful archers in Skyrim, he's open to sharing his knowledge of archery if you're keen to hire an instructor.
The shop sells everything you need to buy as a skilled or newcomer in the world of archery, including weapons and ammunition.
Also as the creator of the mod states, Les is a marriable character.
If you want a hunting companion for the rest of your days or simply someone that has your back with the bow, Les is a good option.
9. Ultra Realistic Bow Shooting Sounds
The creator of this mod took time to record the sounds of actual bows being shot on YouTube and simply made sound files for the game with said recordings.
A fantastic mod indeed, using quite a simple yet super effective concept.
It makes shooting a much more enjoyable experience!
8. Extended Archery Skill Tree
This mod is meant to be used together with other difficulty-enhancing mods, but it basically allows arrows to do much more damage as you progress through levels in Skyrim.
Many issues with archery in the game come from the fact that arrows become less effective against high-level foes, which causes problems to the player more often than not.
7. Spinning Arrows
This mod makes arrows spin when you shoot them, much like they do in real life!
In Skyrim whenever you shoot a bow, the arrow simply moves in a straight direction without any sort of rotation movement whatsoever.
But with this mod you will notice how every arrow moves as you shoot them, enhancing the way it looks by a landslide. Highly recommend this one for any serious archery users.
6. Scoped Bows
Scoped Bows is a mod that adds scopes in the most lore-friendly way possible.
The design of these bows looks very much like any other creation made by the Dunmer, so it does fit quite nicely into Skyrim.
The mod adds a total of 32 bows into the game, which gives you plenty of variety and many more options to complement your archery experience.
If you've been playing the game for as long as me, you'll probably look at this mod with a lot of enthusiasm – and rightly so. Aiming with these weapons is extremely fun!
5. Auto Unequip Ammo
This mod makes ammo get automatically unequipped from your character's active slots as soon as you unequip the ranged weapon that you're using.
For that purpose, the mod remembers exactly which type of ammunition you were using with any bow in the game. Which means that it will get automatically equipped back whenever you use that bow again.
It's a QOL mod more than anything else.
If you're like me and you hate that ammo stays when your weapon isn't in your hands, then this mod is exactly what you need.
4. Nock to Tip
Nock to Tip overhauls the archery system by basically making smithing and archery independent from one another.
Gone are the days of you having to craft random crap to improve your smithing skill and gain access to better arrows.
Now with this mod you'll be able to fletch your own arrows without having to use grindstones of any sorts.
Instead nocks are now attached to most arrows in the game thanks to the complete rework done by the creator of this mod.
That's right – this mod changes the way every single arrow in the game looks.
It adds a nock to the tip of every arrow plus it gives arrows a more realistic and elongated look. They will also now be able to penetrate further into the skin and organs of your foes, making them deadlier.
3. Closer Quivers and Longer Arrows
This is another mod that shows how short arrows are in vanilla Skyrim.
It makes every single arrow in the game longer, but it also makes the quivers more attached to the body of your character.
Plus it makes n sense for the quiver to be floating in the air, and this is one of the things that has irked Skyrim players the most ever since the release of the game.
2. ABT – Arrow and Bolt Tweaks
This mod makes a lot of subtle changes to the arrow and bolt system of the game, but they all add up to create a much more enjoyable archery experience.
The arrows move better, ammunition is far more useful, progressive damage is introduced to the game, and the overall quality of archery improves by a landslide.
A fantastic mod that compiles many of the best features of other mods on this list. I would recommend trying this one (and the mod that took the first place on this list) before the rest!
1. Archery Gameplay Overhaul
AGO changes the way your character moves when using a bow. Sounds small but it gets into a lot of detail.
It has basically a full rework of a bunch of the game's animations to make everything look better and smoother.
Bows are also drawn much faster, cutting the time it takes for you to fire in half, and it even adds the ability for you to enchant arrows and improve your strength as a bowman even further.
There's bleeding, better crosshairs, progressive damage, and even arm fatigue to make archery a much more pleasant and a tad more challenging activity.
Everything about this mod makes archery a lot more fun.
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| This page or section is incomplete. You can help by adding to it. We are missing the difficulty levels for all intimidation challenges, and all Speech challenges added by Dragonborn. For more information, see the help files, the style guide, and this article's talk page. |
| Skill: Speech |
|---|
| Specialization: Stealth |
The Speech skill (referred to as Speechcraft in the Console) allows you to more effectively persuade people and to barter with shopkeepers. Perks in this skill allow you to get better deals when trading, buy and sell any kind of item to any merchant, and make it more likely for a persuasion or intimidation attempt to succeed. The Speech skill tree has a total of 9 perks, requiring a total of 13 perk points to fill.
In-game Description: The skill of persuasion can be used to get better prices from merchants, and persuade others to do as you ask.
- 2Skill Usage
- 2.2Persuasion Options
- 3Skill Increases
Skill Perks[edit]
| Perk | Rank | Description | ID | Skill Req. | Perk Req. |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Haggling | 1 | Buying and selling prices are 10% better. | 000be128 | ||
| 2 | Buying and selling prices are 15% better. | 000c07ce | 20 Speech | ||
| 3 | Buying and selling prices are 20% better. | 000c07cf | 40 Speech | ||
| 4 | Buying and selling prices are 25% better. | 000c07d0 | 60 Speech | ||
| 5 | Buying and selling prices are 30% better. | 000c07d1 | 80 Speech | ||
| Allure | 10% better prices with the opposite sex. | 00058f75 | 30 Speech | Haggling | |
| Merchant | Can sell any type of item to any kind of merchant.† | 00058f7a | 50 Speech | Allure | |
| Investor | Can invest 500 gold with a shopkeeper to increase his available gold permanently. | 00058f7b | 70 Speech | Merchant | |
| Fence | Can barter stolen goods with any merchant you have invested in. | 00058f79 | 90 Speech | Investor | |
| Master Trader | Every merchant in the world gains 1000 gold for bartering.¥ | 001090a5 | 100 Speech | Fence | |
| Bribery | Can bribe guards to ignore crimes. | 00058f72 | 30 Speech | Haggling | |
| Persuasion | Persuasion attempts are 30% easier. | 001090a2 | 50 Speech | Bribery | |
| Intimidation | Intimidation is twice as likely to be successful. | 00105f29 | 70 Speech | Persuasion |
Skill Usage[edit]
Your Speech skill determines the chance of successfully being able to get information out of an NPC using intimidation or persuasion. These Speech Challenges will be provided as options during certain dialogues.
Special dialogue options include:
- Persuade: influence someone by reasoning with them. Chances of success depend solely upon your Speech skill.
- Intimidate: influence someone by threatening them. Chances of success depend upon your Speech skill and your level subtracted by the NPC's level. For example, a 50 difficulty Intimidation check will succeed with a Speech skill of 45 if your character is at least 5 levels higher.
- Bribe: influence someone by giving them money. Factors influencing chance of success are unknown.
Your Speech skill also affects merchant prices; prices can be further improved using some of the Speech skill perks, barter potions or enchanted equipment.
The base rate for buying/selling is based solely on your Speech skill and any perks or Fortify Barter effects are applied to prices afterwards.
Bribe Formula[edit]
Skyrim Archery Build
Persuasion Options[edit]
What follows is a list of all persuasion attempts that can be made in Skyrim. Spoilers in this list are intentionally kept very minor. All speech challenges fall into one of five categories: Very Easy, Easy, Average, Hard, and Very Hard. Their skill requirements to pass are 10, 25, 50, 75, and 100, respectively. Possessing the Persuasion perk reduces the requirements on all but Very Easy challenges by 30%, dropping them to 10, 18, 35, 53, and 70, respectively. Wearing the Amulet of Articulation allows you to succeed at any persuasion check in the game regardless of skill.
Impossible to Fail[edit]
- Persuading Loreius to help Cicero during Delayed Burial.
- Getting Lod to pay you 25 gold before searching for the dog during A Daedra's Best Friend.
Very Easy (10)[edit]
- Persuading a shakedown bandit to leave you alone for 50 gold.
- During The Forsworn Conspiracy, getting Margret to reveal information.
- Getting a free sample from the attendant at Redwater Den.DG
Easy (25/18)[edit]
Average (50/35)[edit]
Hard (75/53)[edit]
Very Hard (100/70)[edit]
- Convincing Faralda to let you join the College of Winterhold without taking a test.
Prices[edit]
Prices are computed by the following:
The Base Price Factor is calculated by your skill level; each skill rank reduces the price factor by .013 by default, and skill levels over 100 have no effect:
- fBarterMax default is 3.3, fBarterMin default is 2.0 (defines a base vendor-selling-range of 200% to 330% of an item's base value, and a vendor-buying-range of 30% to 50%).
- the function min(x,y) return the smallest of two or more arguments (here, [skill-level] or [100]).
The modified Price Factor depends on perks and Fortify Barter bonus:
The final price combines the two Price Factors and rounds to the nearest whole number:
HagglingS = 1.10 at Rank 1, 1.15 at Rank 2, 1.20 at Rank 3, 1.25 at Rank 4, 1.30 at Rank 5. AllureS = 1.10
HagglingB = 0.91 at Rank 1, 0.87 at Rank 2, 0.83 at Rank 3, 0.80 at Rank 4, 0.77 at Rank 5. AllureB = 0.91
- Buying multipliers are the reciprocal of the respective selling multiplier, but rounded to two decimal places (a percentile). Do not use unrounded (untruncated) values, as it will yield incorrect results. (For example, at rank 2, HagglingB is 0.87. 1/1.15 is actually slightly less than 0.87, so using the full (untruncated) value may get you a lower-than-actual buying multiplier.)
- At 0 skill and no perks, the final price factor is 3.3 for buying and 0.303 for selling.
- At 15 skill and no perks, the final price factor is 3.10 for buying and 0.322 for selling.
- At 100 skill and no perks, the final price factor is 2 for buying and 0.5 for selling.
- At 100 skill and all haggling perks, the final price factor is 1.54 for buying and 0.65 for selling.
- At 100 skill and all perks, including Allure, the final price factor is 1.4014 for buying and 0.715 for selling.
- Trade price cap: (max sell price = value * 1.00), (min buy price = value * 1.05).
Skill levels over 100 have no effect.
Investor[edit]
Investing 500 gold into a business with the Investor perk immediately increases their current gold by 500. Investing is as simple as speaking to a merchant NPC and selecting the 'I want to invest in your business' option. This can only be done at the same time of day as they would normally allow sales.
All merchants who are available for investments are identified in the notes column on the Merchants article.
Skill Increases[edit]
Character Creation[edit]
The following races have an initial skill bonus to Speech:
- +5 bonus: Breton, Nord
Trainers[edit]
- Dro'marash with the Khajiit Caravans (Common)
- Revyn Sadri in Windhelm (Common)
- RonthilDG in Volkihar Keep (Expert)
- Ogmund in Markarth (Expert)
- Giraud Gemane of the Bards College in Solitude (Master)
Skill Books[edit]
Free Skill Boosts[edit]
- +1 Speech reward (as well as +1 to all other Stealth skills) from Inge Six Fingers (Bards College) for completing the quest Finn's Lute.
- +1 Speech reward from Malur Seloth (Winterhold) for completing the quest Some Light Theft
- +1 Speech reward from Ysolda (Whiterun) for completing the quest Rare Gifts
- +2 Speech reward from Azzadal for jumping off of Bard's Leap Summit. Jump from opposite the Word Wall in Lost Valley Redoubt off the bridge that extends over the waterfall for Azzadal to appear.
- +5 Speech reward (as well as +5 to all other stealth skills) by selecting 'The Path of Shadow' from the Oghma Infinium after completing the quest Discerning the Transmundane.
Gaining Skill XP[edit]
- Trading with merchants will increase the Speech skill. The amount of skill progress gained is based on the base value of the item being bought/sold and is not limited by the merchant's available gold. However, if you trade multiple units of an item in one transaction, you will only gain experience equivalent to trading a single unit; for optimal leveling, sell each item one at a time, and sell expensive items.
- Fortify Speech and Barter allow for more items to be purchased for a given amount of gold, which increases skill gains.
- Successful Persuade, Intimidate, and Bribe attempts in conversations will also increase the skill.
- Barter with skill trainers that sell items (trainer-merchants). At higher levels (51 and up) buying 5 training sessions from a trainer-merchant will cost a minimum of 8,200 gold. This will temporarily buff the amount of gold that the trainer-merchant has on hand by the amount of gold used for training sessions. Then you can sell items to the trainer-merchant. At the highest levels you can trade 28,000 worth of items in a single visit if you have saved a level up prior to training (this allows 5 training sessions, a level up, then another immediate 5 sessions). This can require a lot of gold on hand and you should avoid allowing the trainer-merchant to accumulate more than 32,767 gold due to a bug with merchant banks.
- One method for those who have a very large amount of money is to don your best haggling apparel (e.g. Guild Master's Hood and a Necklace of Haggling), go to the local fence and sell/rebuy your most expensive weapons (e.g. a pair of Legendary Blades of Woe) repeatedly until your skill increases to the desired level.[verification needed — see talk page] As you will lose money (the amount varies based on perks and equipment) with every sell/buy cycle, the merchant will end up with a vast quantity of gold if you continue the exercise for long enough. At this point you can sell all your more expensive items (i.e. those items which will normally cost the merchant most of their gold) as well as any others to the merchant until they are back down to 0 gold, or you have run out of items to sell.
- One way to train this skill without spending money is to commit a crime with a very low bounty, such as trying to pick a lock one time or stealing an item with a value of less than 10 gold. When your bounty is 5 gold or less, guards may ignore such crimes unless you speak to them. In dialogue, you may get a Persuasion option for the guard to overlook your crime. If you fail the persuasion check with such a low bounty, the guard may ignore the crime anyway. By speaking with and persuading every guard you encounter (except the one who witnessed the crime), your Speech will go from 50 to 100 in 10-15 visits to the town. A bounty of 10 gold may be too high to use this technique. Take note, however: this requires at least 53 Speech (with the Persuade perk) to work; alternately, if you have the gold to spare, you can bribe the guards repeatedly for the same benefit. [verification needed]
- If you are trying to level Speech as quickly as possible, do not use magic items or potions which fortify Speech, and do not give money to beggars. Anything which boosts your Speech skill directly will make your progress slower. Fortify Barter effects do not have this effect. [verification needed — see talk page]
- The Fortify Restoration or Fortify Alchemy/Enchanting exploit can be used to acquire items of extremely high value, which when sold will grant immense boosts to the Speech skill.
- Speech is one of two skills which has a different Console ID than the name, the other being Archery. The actual Console ID for Speech is
Speechcraft. For example, the Console code for improving Speech isAdvancePCskill Speechcraft <#>. - Another way to improve this skill is to repeatedly persuade Calcelmo during the completion of the Buy Dwarven Artifact quest, by exiting the dialogue after the persuasion and before deciding whether to accept his offer. Note that this requires a certain level of Speech in order to work.
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Achievements[edit]
Achievements related to the Speech skill are:
- Snake Tongue (10 points/Bronze) — Successfully persuade, bribe, and intimidate
Dialogue[edit]
When you reach a high level in this skill, guards will sometimes comment:
- 'Don't think you can barter with me like I'm one of those damned shopkeepers.'
- 'Heard about you and your honeyed words.'
Bugs[edit]
- If you raise a merchant's gold to 32,768 it will freeze. It will continue to allow you to sell your items, but you will not receive any gold.
- To reset, wait the 48 hours for an inventory refresh. You can also save, attack the merchant, and load; this refreshes their inventory, and is much faster.
- Some of the merchants may 'forget' that you invested in their shop and lose the option for having extra buying gold. This appears to affect female alchemy merchants much more than male merchants or merchants of general goods stores (e.g. Angeline's Aromatics in Solitude will never remember an investment).
- This bug is fixed by version 1.1 of the Unofficial Skyrim Patch.
- Selecting the Fence perk may allow you to sell stolen goods to any merchant, not just those you have invested in as the perk description states.
- When resetting your Speech skill, you still retain your ability to invest in merchants, without having to have that perk or having a speech skill high enough to be able to get this perk. This is also true for Master Trader—all related merchants will still have 1000 more gold even after you lose the perk.
- During Stabilized, Sapphire has speech options, but none of them perform the proper checks to see if you could succeed. This makes persuading her always succeed by default, no matter what level of Speech you have.
- This bug is fixed by version 2.0.4 of the Unofficial Skyrim Patch.
- Allure only provides a 9% bonus when buying items instead of a 10% bonus as is stated in the description.
- This bug is fixed by version 3.0.11 of the Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.
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